Monday, February 21, 2011

A question for literal bible believers...

While I am sure this question is no where near original, I was reading the comments on a post at Pharyngula about a pastor in Colorado Springs who has decided it would be a good idea to hop into a helicopter to pray for the city from the air, and a thought popped into my mind. For those who happen to believe the bible is the literal truth (of which I know far too many), what is your take on the story of the Tower of Babel when you happen to live in a world where humans daily go far higher then such a Ziggurat could ever have hoped to have been built.

One would think such people would be against things such as skyscrapers, air travel and the International Space Station. Because unless there is an international conspiracy, such places are not plagued by random changes in language. Has God mellowed out since then? Did he finally realize that "Oh shit, I made this planet to be part of a vast universe and not some isolated plane of existence stuck under a literal heaven!"?

Now I know some will argue that it was the fact that the builders of the Tower of Babel did so with the intent of reaching heaven, so unless the builders of modern towers or aviators had the intent of reaching heaven, God wouldn't really care. But if this is the case then you are just setting yourself up for a laughable caricature of a god. Did God, at that time, think man would succeed, was he scared of having his sky party crashed by a bunch of sinful humans? Or, as the original argument goes, was it because of their hubris in thinking they could reach heaven. If this is true then it would mean any time humanity has thought to achieve something above their 'station', God would get a bit pissy. Every time humanity has done something that violates something in the bible, man would have some X-Files level shit happen.

Granted many of these 'true believers' already see humanity as degenerate to begin with, but to such people I say this "if you believe this is so, that all the advancements humanity has made in recent years, especially through secular means, then why not give up all modern technology, medicine, easier lives and your longer lifespans. If you are not willing to do so then your belief is little more then hollow remnants that mean nothing more then as a crutch for your personal fears and ignorance".
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Anonymous said...

Joseph's global famine (Genesis 41:57) now has been verified! Spread the news! Educate the world to ancient world history.

Shang Dynasty emperor Ching Tang some Chinese historians stated his reign began in 1747 B.C. There are others who believe his reign began in 1675 B.C. Chinese emperor Ching Tang was recorded having a seven year famine verifying Joseph’s seven year famine in Genesis 41:30. This seven year famine occurred 1704-1697 B.C. Emperor Ching Tang must have been reigning during this time in world history.

JOSEPH 7 YEAR FAMINE

Joseph lived for 110 years 1741-1631 B.C. (Genesis 50:26) Joseph age 30 (Genesis 41:40-46) became governor of Egypt in 1711 B.C. There was 7 years of great harvest and the second year of famine Joseph age 39 in 1702 B.C. met his father Jacob age 130 (Genesis 47:9) in Egypt. Global famine 1704-1697 B.C. (Genesis 41:57)

AFRICA

(1) Jacob brought the starving Hebrew people into Egypt settling near Biblical On (Genesis 41:45) Heliopolis, Egypt in 1702 B.C.
(2) Starving Hyksos Canaanite chieftain Sheshi lead his people into Avaris, Egypt trading their horses for bread (Genesis 47:13-17) in 1702 B.C. during the world famine. (Genesis 41:57)
(3) Some Minoans from Crete also settle in Egypt’s delta in 1700 B.C. as archaeologist have found Minoan artifacts in Egypt’s delta.
(4) The Kushite kingdom in eastern Africa arises in 1700 B.C. as Africans fleeing famine come together living in close knit community along the Nile river south of Egypt.
(5) Some Black tribes migrate from central Africa and settle in southern Africa fleeing from famine. These people left their prescience known. Archaeologist dated their artifacts to 1700 B.C.

EUROPE

(6) Other Minoans from the island of Crete migrate to mainland Greece in 1700 B.C. spreading their culture there.
(7) Nordic Bronze culture in northern Europe becomes established in 1700 B.C. where bronze weapons are produced used in hunting wild game.
(8) Starving Indo-Europeans from western Russia migrate to central Europe and produce bronze weapons to hunt wild game in 1700 B.C.

ASIA

(9) People from central Asia-Minor migrate to the coast and build defensive walls around Troy VI to keep the starving barbarians out of the city.
(10) Some starving Hittites move into western Assyria and adopt the Assyrian cuneiform style of writing in 1700 B.C.
(11) Starving Indo-European Sealanders invade Amorite Babylon king Abi-Eshuh 1710-1684 B.C. settling in southern Babylonia in 1700 B.C. Abi-Eshuh dams up the Tigris river trying to starve the Sealanders out.
(12) Starving Indo-European tribes invade Dravidan dominated India in 1700 B.C. Indo-Europeans destroy the Dravidan Mohenjo-Daro civilization in 1700 B.C.
(13) Starving Indo-European tribes invade western China in 1700 B.C. Chinese archaelogist discovered Indo-European mummies in western China. The Indo-Europeans introduced the Chinese to the horse driven chariot. NOTE: Indo-European Kassites were first to use the horse driven chariot attacking Babylon in the reign of Amorite Babylon king Samsu-iluna 1750-1711 B.C. in his 9th year in 1741 B.C. NOTE: Joseph age 30 was given the Egyptian pharaoh’s 2nd chariot in 1711 B.C. (Genesis 41:43)
(14) Chinese Shang Dynasty very early in the dynasty recorded a 7 year famine verifying Joseph’s account of the 7 year global famine in Egypt. (Genesis 41:57) It was Shang Dynasty emperor Ching Tang in Chinese annals these record his seven year famine which matches Joseph’s famine. (Genesis 41:30)

NORTH AMERICA

(15) The American agricultural Indians establish the Poverty Point Mound Culture in Louisiana in 1700 B.C. building their first city in North America during the world famine.
(16) Olmecs migrate into the Yucatan Peninsula in 1700 B.C. Archaeologist state the Olmecs invented plumbing and the Olmecs were interested in water conservtion at this time in world history.

SOUTH AMERICA

(17) South American Indians establish their kingdom in Bolivia during the global famine 1704-1697 B.C. according to archaeologist discoveries there at Tiahuanacu.

REX said...

Can ancient Jewish prophets reveal events taking place in our life time?

Israel became a nation reborn on May 14, 1948 (Ezekiel 36:24)

Four red moons followed. (1) April 13, 1949 Passover blood red moon (2)October 7, 1949 Sukkot blood red moon (3)April 2, 1950 Passover blood red moon (4)September 26, 1950 blood red moon.

June 6 Day War in 1967. (1)April 24, 1967 Passover blood red moon (2) October 18, 1967 Sukkot blood red moon(3)April 13, 1968 Passover blood red moon (4)October 6, 1968 Sukkot blood red moon. (One red moon before the 6 Day War followed by three more red moons)

What will happen in 2013 since Four blood red moons will follow? OR will April 15,2014 pass with one red moon like what happened in the Six Day War followed by three red moons meaning the Sunni Arabs will go to war against Israel sometime after April 15,2014 and before October 8,2014?

(1)April 15,2014 Passover blood red moon (2)October 8,2014 Sukkot blood red moon (3)April 4,2015 Passover blood red moon (4)September 28,2015 Sukkot blood red moon.

Will 2013 A.D. be the year when Israel crushes the Sunni Arab terrorists living along all her borders in fulfillment of the Psalms 83 prophecy? Or will this prophecy fulfillment take place after April 2014 & before October 8,2014?

Syrian president Assad has told his generals should he die he wants his generals to launch their rockets upon Israel’s cities. Should the Syrian commanders follow Assad’s advice Damascus will be destroyed (Isaiah 17:1) in one night. (Isaiah 17:14)

God used the sun to help Joshua destroy Israel’s ancient enemies. (Joshua 10:12-14) Today, God uses the four red moons to warn the Israelites their enemies plans of attack.